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To James Arthur Ray

Postby Lee Kuan on Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:57 am

To James Arthur Ray,

I'm not certain about the particulars, but I just want you to know that I have proudly stood up for you in a message board forum that was putting you down for the recent events. They called you names and I challenged them to come up with three things about your personal philosophy they disagreed with. The ignored my question.

Again they started a thread trying to put you down. I just responded with this post:


I don't know what exactly happened and refuse to negatively judge him and wish him the very best of all successes. The art of manifesting can sometimes throw us powerful hurtles. The true winners are those who refuse to give up no matter how many obstacles are thrown in their paths.

Winners wish everyone the very best. Losers rejoice at the misfortune of others. This is one of the clearest ways to spot a loser.

I've learned that the best way to live is to forgive everyone (myself equally included) and wish everyone the very best. This is why I give out the best possible ratings in this forum.

May what I wish for him come back around for me.



Oh, the same goes for the rest of you

Get real. YOU KNOW that you are secretly jealous of his success. This is how I am different from you losers. I don’t rejoice over the misfortune of others and I am not jealous of the success of anyone. I rejoice in the success of others. This is one of the reasons I am a winner!

It’s a clear difference between myself and the rest of you who have posted on this thread so far. As you harp on the misfortunes of others you are setting yourselves up to have misfortune attract itself to you like an inexorable magnet.

Keep it up and you will most surely see just what I mean.

Don’t say you weren’t warned!
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Re: Best Fortunes To You!

Postby Lee Kuan on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:01 am

Whoah! I lost my personal bet. I bet that this forum would not allow a person to enter a post without having it moderated first. After what happened I figured you would want to weed out the ‘kill joys’ before they had a chance to try and poison your forum.

Hey, you’ve got guts. I’ll give you that much! :mrgreen:
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Re: Best Fortunes To You!

Postby Lee Kuan on Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:30 am

In case you are curious, I just found out I was temporarily banned from the forum where I entered the post I shared when I started this thread. They had already called Ray a "douche" and an "asshole". I designated the difference between winners and losers and I was temporarily banned from that forum.

I responded to the moderators PM notice of my banning by asking if the others who called Ray names were banned as well. I don't think he will respond.
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Re: Best Fortunes To You!

Postby Lee Kuan on Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:54 am

Okay. I feel inspired to do my best to help you, Ray. I don’t expect you to appreciate it, but I imagine you are FINALLY taking the time to meticulously examine everything you believe so chances are this will be the time you will come to this forum and read what I have to share.

I’ve had four near-death experiences and KNOW there is an after-world of tremendous love and joy for those who…properly enter that realm. I have to wait for a noble death to present itself and until then I MUST live a life of growing gratitude and appreciation for all the wonderful things I have been given the power to manifest. Death and I are old friends. I am not afraid of Death. What I am afraid of is living a life that I may one day be ashamed of.

Let us begin here, for I KNOW the Universe is Sentient, Conscious & Aware and I sense that I am supposed to share this with you:

From the official The Secret website you can access the official The Secret message board forum called: Powerful Intentions. I was recently there and after posting some things about a guy there who created a blog stating that he of the Jesus Christ and had been through hell protected of Heaven, blah, blah, blah. I started a thread with the post I created on his blog. Here is that post.


I’ve encountered his type before and in response to his grandiose Christ claims I wrote:


"I have tremendous respect for the very best of all the great religions of the world and I refuse to allow any one of them threaten me with damnation for not believing in their religion exclusively.

God will NOT send me to hell for not believing as you do and I REFUSE to allow you or anyone else convince me that I must believe as you do or I will burn in hell, period.

From your tone I sense that you are one of those who would threaten me with your “holy book” if I refuse to believe as you do.

I say: It is not safe to threaten others with damnation. Those who threaten others with damnation are the ones most in danger of being damned.

So, I allow you the freedom to believe as you like. If you refuse me this same courtesy then whatever you may threaten me with shall happen to YOU instead.

I suggest you keep this in mind before you try to threaten ANYONE with hell FOR ANY REASON!"
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Re: Best Fortunes To You!

Postby Lee Kuan on Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:08 pm

I keep all my most important posts saved in Microsoft Word and in a private forum. Things got to this point at Powerful Intentions. I wrote:

"A guy created a blog here. He mentions NOTHING about the Law of Attraction or The Secret. He makes all kinds of claims that he’s been through the fires of hell while being in heaven. He claims to have Christ within him. Was he here to learn anything? Apparently not.

He came here looking for followers

I was the ONLY ONE HERE who had important information that might snap him out of his religious delusion. None of you had ANYTHING to say to him on his blog. You had no help to offer this religiously delusional guy AT ALL.

The important information I shared was all deleted

I am left with the feeling that from now on I will NEVER try to help any religiously delusional guy again. I don’t care if I am certain the guy is part of a suicide cult. I will just mind my own business and let the entire cult kill themselves. I won’t get involved in any way. I won’t try to help.

This is what you have done to me by your responses and deletion. I feel it is indeed a permanent change in me and, I must admit, I feel peaceful in the thought that my life is my business. Everyone else’s life is THEIR business and none of mine.

So, this is what I have learned from this forum and I would like you to straighten me out if you feel that what you have taught me by your actions is incorrect.

Thanks"
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Re: Best Fortunes To You!

Postby Lee Kuan on Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:11 pm

ANOTHER SHARED RESPONSE OF MINE:

What I sense is you are throwing your stones at me and intend to hide unless I do things YOUR WAY when I respond. I make no such stipulations from you. You don't have to do things MY WAY in order for me to respond to you. Does that make you my spiritual superior? I'm curious.

What help did you offer that religiously delusional guy? Nothing, right?

You didn't answer my chief question:

"I come here and it seems that all truth which is not sweet, nice and wonderful is not welcome and I can’t help but wonder if that is the way I should be? Should I reject all truth in life that is not sweet, nice, wonderful and uplifting? Is that the proper way to live?"

I was talking about a trend I am seeing in MESSAGE BOARD FORUMS. What? I didn't make that clear enough for you? People seem to be becoming dumber and more pervertedly insane. I am not offended by what they do, but most forums I visit are becoming more disgustingly dumb. Plus, most Law of Attraction message board forums I visit are either completely dead or almost completely dead.

This doesn't make much sense to me considering that The Secret is still a Borders Books bestseller
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Re: Best Fortunes To You!

Postby Lee Kuan on Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:16 pm

Dear Ray,

Look, I feel it is important I make it clear what recently happened in Powerful Intentions (the official The Secret message board forum) before I continue here with the help I am inspired to give you. There just may be important things you can learn from my encounter with them that may help you now
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Re: Best Fortunes To You!

Postby Lee Kuan on Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:19 pm

POWERFUL INTENTIONS Steve Soucy Wrote:

"I can be a bona fide asshole, not at all scared at all of going toe to toe with anyone. What I witnessed in your last discussion had little to do with what you thought of someone elses overbearing religious views. Your language and style read like you were doing the same exact things you didn't want religious people doing. It had everything to do with you trying to win some strange anger contest. And there was actually nothing to win, except you feeling like everyone else was wrong. All the anger in that thread was yours. You might as well own it."

MY RESPONSE:

The burden of proof is upon YOU. Of course, you can PROVE that all the anger on that thread was mine, right? This is what you want to believe and you will obviously stick to your story even though you didn't have the guts to post on that thread and share your views. Well, the evidence is gone and you can say what you like and everyone here will most probably agree with you.

Am I angry about this fact?

Not at all!

Now, of course, you’re going to state that I actually am angry no matter what I may say. I’m not angry. I’ve come to expect false accusations from people like you. It comes as no real surprise at all. Actually, I am content in that you cannot trick me into thinking that ‘all the anger on that thread was mine’.

I HAVE ALL MY POSTS FROM THAT THREAD SAVED IN MICROSOFT WORD!

Do you? No, right?

I can bring up EVERY POST that was deleted! I’ve read them over and over and over in order to get a better view of what I stated. What I have documented are lots of people negatively judging me when THE SECRET TEACHES they should not do such things. What does that make them, eh?

You see, you didn’t think I had saved my posts so you could make any accusation against me you liked without having to back any of your accusations up.

Ha! Funny!

I’m not kidding here. I can bring up EVERY SIGNIFICANT POST of mine from that thread that was deleted. You can’t. I have proof of what I actually wrote. You have only what you want to remember.
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Re: Best Fortunes To You!

Postby Lee Kuan on Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:23 pm

And then...

I WAS BANNED with no warning or explanation. They were even too cowardly to answer the question I kept asking about whether or not I should reject all truth unless it comes in a sweet and nice package.

I was able to send a couple of messages to the administration. I told them I forgave them for the evil they have done against me and I made certain they KNEW they had done evil against me.
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Re: Best Fortunes To You!

Postby Lee Kuan on Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:34 pm

*I thought you might like to see the post I created to the moderator who banned me from the forum where they were insulting your leader. I sent a copy of this post to the administrator of the forum:



Let me get this straight:

Everyone else, who wants to, can call James Arthur Ray an "asshole" or a "douche" and that is just fine, right? You didn't ban them, right? They can communicate in such a manner and that is just fine with you, right?

You expect me to be a paragon of virtue in this forum. Okay, I will strive to better myself and not be fully honest in how I communicate. I have been doing my best to be civil. It is rare that I have stated such things. You ignore all the good and just harp on the perceived bad.

Well, I just read your PM. Okay, I guess I know where you stand. As long as someone is not participating in the discussion I can call them an asshole and a douche all I like, right?

Hey! YOU were not participating in the discussion!

I imagine you are now going to say that YOU are excluded from the rule you made up. I don't remember reading in the rules that you can insult people as long as they are not participating in the discussion.

You made that up, didn't you?

You let them get away with calling someone a "douche" and an "asshole" then ban me from that forum for pointing out the general differences between winners and losers.

Now you are making up a rule that is NOT included in the rules for the forum.
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Re: To James Arthur Ray

Postby Lee Kuan on Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:52 pm

I'm wondering if I should freely give my help here. Maybe I should charge you for it. How about I give you a special discount.

Today only: $5,000.00

That's a 50% discount!

Today only!

Get it while it lasts :mrgreen:

EDIT: Oh, you don't think this is funny? Well, I could be wrong, but I don't think the Spirit of Nature finds the prices you charge for your events to be funny either.

Then again...I could be wrong. How about you? Could YOU be wrong? :wink:
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Re: To James Arthur Ray

Postby Lee Kuan on Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:26 am

I’ve learned that when you are dealing with the power of Intent you are dealing with the Ultimate Sentient Force in the Universe. It is the very force of creation and it MUST approve of your ventures in order for you to be truly successful in life. If the force of Intent does not approve of you things like what happened in that sweat lodge can indeed happen.

I don’t see why the price Ray was charging was the issue. The people were not forced to pay it. Still, from what I read there were wayyyy too many people in that sweat lodge and the tarps were not breathable as they should have been.

I don’t know, but if something like this happened to me I would automatically assume that I had angered the Spirit of Nature (Intent). It would be a time for me to reexamine EVERYTHING I believe in and I imagine that is exactly what James Arthur Ray is doing now.

I wish him the very best and…

I don’t intend to charge him for my services :roll:
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Re: To James Arthur Ray

Postby Lee Kuan on Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:37 am

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Intelligent people know others.
Enlightened people know themselves.

You can conquer others with power,
But it takes true strength to conquer yourself

~ Tao Te Ching ~


MY COMMENTARY:

To truly know oneself
Is what advanced meditation is all about
It’s about stopping the world of thoughts
And directly examining the nature of one’s being

The breath being the main vehicle
That keeps one centered on
The moment: NOW

The path to conquering oneself
Is through the attainment
Of inner-silence
It is through inner-silence
That we can get a glimpse
Past our egos into the core
Of our true natures
And the infinite power of creation
That is our inherited birthright
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Re: To James Arthur Ray

Postby Lee Kuan on Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:16 pm

*So, as of today I am unbanned from the forum where I defended James Arthur Ray. Here is my first response:


I didn't say I was "superior". I stated: different

Now, in my opinion one thing can be better TO ME PERSONALLY than another. For example: I consider DaVinci to be a superior artist to Picasso. That is my opinion, but others may hold a different view. In the final analysis both DaVinci and Picasso are made of the exact same energy, thus they are equal.

However, I have my personal opinions and I don't see how it is wrong for me to state something like I find the music of Mozart to be superior to that of Strauss. I don't like waltzes much.

I find the oldies music of the 60, 70 & 80s to be superior to the disposable crap they put out today and call music.

That's my opinion. The opinion of others may differ.

Now, in the overall sense I don’t see my opinion as superior. Yes, it’s different, but I respect the rights of others to see things differently and enjoy music that destroys their minds and makes them dumb. It is their right to destroy themselves. I used to be that way and I can understand why they do what they do.

I thank the entire universe that I am wiser now.
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Re: To James Arthur Ray

Postby Lee Kuan on Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:19 pm

* My next post to them:


You people made a judgment against me without understanding what I meant. I will agree that I did not state what I meant in the proper way and I would like to clear that up.

To me:

A Winner is someone who is fully prepared to face eternity with a clear conscience

A Loser is someone who is not fully prepared to face eternity with a clear conscience

The ignorant automatically assume that if a person has a lot of money they are automatically a “winner”. In my view it is indeed possible for a person to be a billionaire and still be a loser. How you make your money is more important, from the eternal aspects, than how much money you have.

A Winner is extremely grateful for the wonderful things in his life and builds a better life founded on gratitude and appreciation for all the wonderful things that have been entrusted to him. He regularly DEMONSTRATES his gratitude and appreciation by striving to take excellent care of all the wonderful things entrusted to him

In Contrast

A Loser tends to gloss over all the wonderful things in his life with an attitude that they are not wonderful enough. He tends to moan and complain about what he doesn’t have or like and, through the process, attracts and manifests more of what he doesn’t have and doesn’t like.


A Winner is truly happy for those who are successful in life. Even if they are more successful than he personally is. A Winner rejoices over the happy victories of others

In Contrast

A Loser is secretly jealous of those who he feels are more successful than he is. He says bad things about them behind their backs and secretly wishes them ill. By doing so he sets up a universal pattern to attract the essence of all the bad things he wishes for others into his life


A Winner does not rejoice over the misfortunes of others and NEVER jumps to bad conclusions about someone without knowing all the facts

In Contrast

A Loser is always ready to rejoice over the misfortunes of others. Without knowing the facts he spreads all kinds of bad rumors and sets himself up for disaster in the process. Losers don’t care about the good a man like James Arthur Ray has done. They gloss over all the good, just as they gloss over the good in their lives. They make accusations without foundation. I can ask them to state three of the main things about the philosophy of James Arthur Ray that they disagree with and they have no answer. They will label such a man as a fraud without even knowing what they are talking about.

So, I am not now specifically calling any member here a loser, but if the shoe fits…well…remember that it’s all just my opinion and opinions are like farts. Everyone has them.

I would indeed like you to straighten me out here if you feel I am wrong. I am always ready to upgrade my personal views. If I am wrong I am man enough to openly admit it. ARE YOU?
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